358. Psychologist Dr. Margaret Rutherford on How Perfectionists Mask Their Depression

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Dr. Margaret Rutherford is a psychologist, author, and podcast host. She’s the author of “Perfectly Hidden Depression: How to Break Free from the Perfectionism that Masks Your Depression,” a book that digs into the stigma that paints emotions as a sign of weakness and how high performers often use perfectionism to hide their own insecurities. Most type-A entrepreneurs want everything to be perfect — they want to conquer their goals, master their family life, and live a perfect life — when, deep inside, that pressure is leading to a slow death. She discusses how to identify depression in high achievers, and how to start getting help.

In This Conversation We Cover: 

  • [03:23] Being known as “the digger’s daughter”
  • [07:29] The importance of class and elegance
  • [13:31] Why people experience panic attacks
  • [23:45] Techniques for overpowering panic
  • [37:48] How to diagnose mental illnesses
  • [45:09] How perfectionists masquerade their depression


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